Hire for Grit, Not for Smarts. It’s Science.

When people find out I am a recruiting guy, they ask me, “What’s your favorite interview question?” People think I must have super-secret awesome questions that only recruiters know. We don’t.

Lots of hiring managers think they also know some magical question that tells them whether one person will be successful. They don’t. “See what I do, R. J., is I ask them what type of animal they would be, so I can see them think on their feet.”

God help me. Those managers are idiots.

Leaders and hiring managers overvalue and undervalue all sorts of stuff. IQ, schooling, personality, nice teeth, a strong handshake. An executive on a panel I was on once told MBA students he asks about candidates’ relationship with their fathers. If they had a bad relationship with Pops, he rejected them. Seriously. I laughed out loud at him.

Does IQ matter?

Top interviewers ask questions that get data. But what data is important?  For a lot of people, they value IQ or cognitive ability over anything else. Me? I will take a street smart hustler over a mid-range motivated genius. I think things like toughness, resilience, hustle and street smarts matter in the work world. A lot.

Science agrees with me. I know—I am as surprised as you. Science calls it “Grit.” Man, that sounds good.  Grit.  I like it.  Check this article from Fortune by Kristen Hamilton, CEO of Koru:

… I’ve never been convinced that IQ has much clout. In fact, I think it’s a burden if you think it does. It’s not smarts, it’s not talent, it’s not even luck or chance that separates the risers from the fallers – it’s grit.

The term “grit” was made popular in academic circles in 2013 by Angela Duckworth, a psychology professor at the University of Pennsylvania School of Psychology. Calling it the “quality of being able to sustain your passions, and also work really hard at them, over really disappointingly long periods of time,” she explained that people with grit are people who can overcome stress and use failure as a means to achieve their ultimate goals.

I’ll add – grit isn’t just working hard; it’s continuing that effort long after the fat lady has begun singing. It’s finishing the race when you’re dead last. It’s seeing failure as a simple, necessary step to achieve what you want. To me, grit is an indomitable spirit.

Duckworth and her colleagues were able to use their measure of grit to predict successful outcomes in everything from the Scripps National Spelling Bee to graduation from Chicago public schools. Students with grit continuously prevailed over those with high IQs.

This is that lesson that parents try to teach to sons and daughters on back porches and ball fields all over America. Try your best. Keep trying. Don’t quit. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.

Don’t misunderstand me. Smarts are important. I don’t want dumb hustlers, but don’t overvalue the IQ. I still need smart people, but hiring a smart person without grit will be a disappointment. You know people like this—when it got tough, the guy with all of the hair and teeth just crumbled. The street fighter in the back of the room who can think on her feet and leverage others to figure stuff out—that’s who you want.

FOT Background Check

RJ Morris
R. J. Morris is based in the STL as the Director of Talent Acquisition and Management for McCarthy Building Companies, a multi-billion dollar national firm. Like many others in the FOT clan, he’s a sports nut who can endlessly draw the parallels between athletes, sports and the talent management game. I know, I know, as if we needed more of that. He has 10 years of practitioner experience leading talent efforts in corporate HR and another 7 years in leadership roles on the agency side, so he gets both sides of the desk. Talk to R.J. via emailLinkedInTwitter...


  1. Myrna says:

    I was wondering if you ever thought of changing thee layout of your blog?
    Its very well written; I love what youve got
    to say. But maybe you could a little more in tthe way of cobtent so
    people could connect with it better. Youve got an awful lot of text forr only having one or
    two pictures. Maybe you could spaace it out better?

    My site – refined lamborghini cars (Myrna)

  2. Stewart Farr says:

    Interesting timing on this. Recently I had a discussion with someone in the trades about their issues with HR. He put it very simply – HR was like filter-paper – it removed all the gritty/hard employees and left the weak watery employees who would soon evaporate.

    He even had an exact instance where a person with 20 years experience “on the tools” (had even run his own business) was unable to get through recruitment for one simple reason. He couldn’t read or write very well. He waited 3 months for HR to get back to him – then finally accepted a job elsewhere where HR could be bypassed – and he was respected for the skills and more importantly the attitude he had to working in a tough environment.

    So sometimes we need to sit back and think – this criteria I am requiring for a new recruit……does it have the same punch as having the right attitude?
    Am I becoming a filter which creates the weakest coffee?

  3. Deb McClanahan says:

    Love, love, love this post, RJ. Thanks for saying all of the things the rest of us want to say.

  4. Shannon says:

    On vacation last week, I had the rare opportunity to read an actual, paper magazine article. It was from the HBR June ’14 issue, and it was called 21st Century Talent Spotting by Claudio Fernandez-Araoz. The author encourages companies to switch from competency based hiring to hiring for potential. Specifically, motivation, curiosity, insight, engagement, and determination. Once the hiring is done, then retain and develop them via stretch assignments. Pretty interesting concepts that would require many employers to redesign their screening, selection, and development processes.

  5. Ci pensa il solito Pedro allora: gran destro e intervento non perfetto di Manua, 1-0. QCOM quotazione QUALCOMM IncorporatedConsulta anche i ritardi per le . Due persone accomunate da una stessa grandissima professionalità ed un fair play che oggi non si trova più, proprio come un quadrifoglio in un rettangolo di celine (dimenticavo,hermes sito ufficiale, forse sono già sintetici. All’inizio le cose vanno a meraviglia, ma il celine non è facile da portare avanti, anche perch&#

  6. Samual says:

    Wow, that’s what I was looking for, what a material! prresent here at this webpage,
    thanks admin of this website.

  7. Alexandra says:

    Thank you for every other wonderful post. Where else may anyone get that type of info
    in such an ideal means of writing? I have a presentation subsequent
    week, and I’m at the look for such info.

  8. Good replis in return off thi mattr with genuine arguments and describing the whole
    thing about that.

    my page :: dove sposarsi

Trackbacks for this post

  1. Nejlepší kariérní rada na světě: buďte odhodlaní | Mimoškolu.cz
  2. Mimo školu: Vzděláváme pro život v 21. století

Comments are now closed for this article.

Contact Us | Hire FOT to Speak | About FOT