What Does “Having It All” Mean for HR?

Let’s face it.  There are a lot of women in HR.  There are also fewer women at the top, as with other professions.  When women do get to the top, they are applauded as well as questioned.  The usual, “Can women have it all?” comes into play.

Matt Lauer asked General Motors CEO Mary Barra if she can be a mom and run one of the biggest companies in America.  Then he asked her to respond to comments that she’d been appointed to the CEO position in order to give a maternal image to GM.

Then there’s this article that talks about women starting businesses not necessarily being a good thing.

Lastly, PepsiCo’s CEO talks about her own mom putting her in her place when she was named President and member of the Board of one of the most recognized organizations in the world.

What are the “so what’s?” for HR, men and women alike, when thinking about these examples?

  • Matt’s an ass. Alright, that’s probably obvious. Like it or not, when a female takes on a #1 role, her personal life and the demands absolutely come into play.  And whether the question is asked or simply talked about behind closed doors… it’s out there.

For HR, we have to be able to address it head on.  We have to be willing to skirt the legality of the question for the good of the organization and the person.  Let’s help set up our female leaders for success so they can be role models for the generation behind them.

  • The Harvard Business Journal article sites that, since 1997, the number of women-owned businesses in the U.S. is 68%, yet women struggle to replace their corporate salaries and less than 2% of these businesses reach the $1M revenue threshold of success.

This should scare the crap out of HR.  Women are leaving corporate—and not just a few.  They are leaving, yet not always having financial success, so re-entering even further behind their peers.  The exodus causes a problem, and not just for all the diversity programs out there, and the re-entry causes issues with pay equality to be magnified.

  • Indra Nooji’s mom reminds her, “You might be president of PepsiCo.  You might be on the board of directors.  But when you enter this house, you’re the wife, you’re the daughter, you’re the daughter-in-law, you’re the mother.  You’re all of that.  Nobody else can take that place.  So leave that damned crown in the garage.”

It’s not just the corporate pressures women face, it could be her family and extended family as well.  Helping to alleviate even a portion of this burden can make a difference in how long female leaders stay and how many follow in their footsteps.  Or we can accept that women may not stay as long in top roles and let’s make the most of their time while they are there.

Anne-Marie Slaughter summed it up by saying, “I realized what should have perhaps been obvious: having it all, at least for me, depended almost entirely on what type of job I had.  The flip side is the harder truth: having it all was not possible in many types of jobs, including high government office—at least not for very long”.

This isn’t a feminst or women’s rights issue.  It’s bigger.  It’s an issue right now and years from now for all our organizations.  Women will decide on their own if they can have it all, but HR has to work to change the landscape so that more women will want to be leaders and can be successful when they get there.

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Kathy Rapp
Kathy Rapp is the President of hrQ, where she helps companies find groovy HR Talent or HR Consultants to drive business results.  Prior to joining hrQ, Kathy booked more than 15 years of human resources leadership experience working for such companies as Morgan Stanley and First Data Corporation.  A connoisseur of the intersection between pop culture and business, Kathy believes many talent issues can be addressed via the succession planning lessons experienced by Van Halen  (David Lee/Sammy and sadly, Gary Cherone).


  1. Stewart Farr says:

    Having it all is not a female issue. Men struggle (and have struggled) with this concept since the dawn of time. I think its one of those things that are attached to the phrases – responsibility and compromise.

    the state or fact of having a duty to deal with something or of having control over someone.

    an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions.

    So at some point – you are going to have to be dealing with something and sacrifice dealing with it in an appropriate way due to having other commitments.

    “Having it all” simply means that you have 2 halves…….not 2 wholes. No one in this world is 200% committed. Contrary to what they claim.

    • Kathy Rapp says:

      Thanks Stewart – and agree on all your points. I like the 2 halves concept.

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