The Politics of HR – Whose Side Are You On?

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Johnny C. Taylor, Jr., HR’s largest membership organization’s CEO has been catching a lot of flack lately. In fact, a band of HR innovators and outliers have pushed the #fixitSHRM hashtag for a while in their displeasure with the CEO’s actions on behalf of the society. It’s even getting some press and blog play in the HR and talent space with a broader audience. Some of those speaking out are my friends and I hope they are still my friends after this article.

Before I get into the discussion, I need to make a full disclosure, as some may question my own agenda in writing this. I have presented at several SHRM conferences over the years, been awarded a couple of significant honors, and done some writing for them too. So, clearly I have benefited personally from my relationship, and at least up until now, I am a member in good standing. Now that we have that out of the way, I call it as I see it and rarely shy away from controversy or speaking my mind.

There are a few issues at play.

Let’s start with the POTUS photo ops which have not been well received by many. Whether it be Johnny’s agenda for minority colleges (remember where Johnny worked right before the new role) and his former financial donor relationships, or his latest push for change in regards to giving individuals with criminal backgrounds a second chance, he has been thrown into the spotlight with the President on the Hill. It’s hard to tell whether these are SHRM’s agenda items or Johnny’s. This has become intertwined in a broader lobbying and legislative agenda of the Society in the halls of Congress. SHRM’s latest agenda has many stakeholders and lobbyists including the Koch brothers, which some have viewed as SHRM selling out to conservative billionaires. This is the society that has always billed itself as Bi-Partisan, or should I say Non-Partisan and politically neutral. If you watched the State of the Union this year, you saw that SHRM was a sponsor of CNN’s broadcast, with lots of commercials before and after the speech. The large spend on ads has many questioning where all their revenue is being spent as well as why it was spent during the State of the Union.

The presence of Johnny as a keynote presenter at HR conferences including this year’s SHRM conference in Vegas (CEOs previously acted more as emcee and less as a “guest keynote presenter”) is the last straw for many. With this as a backdrop, many of the vocal leaders in the HR and talent community have weighed in with their disappointment regarding ongoing tweets and articles. A few are even boycotting future events and dropping their membership. There are other issues that have created divisiveness within the HR community and SHRM. I would need a lot more than 1,000 words to delve into them. Needless to say,  there is a spectrum of beliefs and activism in the HR world, no different than the world at large. And in the immortal words of Nelly, “it’s getting hot in here.”

Well, I see both sides of the issues. One might give Johnny a lot of credit for ramping up SHRM’s visibility and building a recognizable brand. Can you name any other business function society with as much visibility?

Accounting firms for years have sponsored golf tournaments and done major TV and radio ad buys, but it’s the companies doing so. I don’t see AICPA running ads and doing press conferences regularly on cable television.

Additionally, there is a comprehensive agenda that SHRM is working to accomplish and agendas cost money – more than the revenue produced by their conferences and training. Sometimes we don’t always agree with the political views of the folks contributing to the cause or even all of the agenda items. So, if you’re on the left side of the political spectrum, cozying up with conservative billionaire philanthropists may not be your cup of tea. During my tenure heading HR at Success Academy Charter Schools, we received millions of dollars in donations from hedge fund CEOs and philanthropists that sometimes had different political ideologies, but we needed the money, and it can make for strange and unusual bedfellows. Our agenda was realized in part with their financial support– sound familiar?

Johnny is a force who runs the organization more like a large business than a non-profit. His letting go of some tenured SHRM staff at the beginning of his term didn’t sit well with the old timers in the HR space (oops that wasn’t supposed to be disclosed). And his cozying up to the President and influential business leaders is not playing out favorably now. But are we not mimicking the behavior expected of the function as a business partner in the real world? Sorry, HR leaders are not the subservient order-takers of two decades ago. So, if you want respect, you have to know the rules of engagement and play accordingly. Johnny clearly knows the rules of engagement, and he is actively fulfilling an agenda. You may not agree with this tactic, and if you are a member of SHRM, then you have the right to let them know what you think, but remember the age-old adage about catching bees with honey… well, there is more than one way to disagree. I still believe that SHRM is a tremendous force in educating HR folks and bringing light to many challenging issues.

With all that said, I do feel conflicted over the whole situation.

I believe you try to fix things from the inside, using your board of directors as advocates for all. Unfortunately, we are not well represented with everyday HR folks as board members, and maybe that should be the point of change for the organization. We could use a couple more Steve Browns on the board. Trying to sway the mothership of any organization is difficult especially from the outside. A few years ago, there was an HR transparency group that rose up and tried to make changes to have a couple of folks added to the board. It had some traction but fell woefully short of its agenda. Not exactly a blueprint for success, but it was an attempt, and maybe it’s time to take a time out and revisit some of the issues and call outs in a more palatable way.

SHRM could throttle back some of its advocacy activities and respond to some of their member concerns before proceeding further. I hope my SHRM friends who work on the Hill will not be mad at me for suggesting this either. Or maybe Johnny should do a few town halls with everyday HR folks to get a better feel for what the everyday practitioner needs and wants from their organization, instead of talking…maybe listening.

In the end, SHRM is a member organization, so it’s up to everyone that is a member to weigh-in. I am a dreamer and yes, an optimist, and still believe the Society does many important things, including training and keeping us informed on legislative changes. And some great folks are working there too. Johnny could be the first SHRM CEO in a long time to really get things done if we make a few adjustments. So, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water….just yet.

 We can fix it, let’s just do it the right way.

Mark Fogel

Mark Fogel is best known for his HR with an Attitude. His background includes almost a decade and a half as CHRO at Leviton Mfg., The Marcum Group, and The Success Academy Charter School Network, as well as co-founding Human Capital 3.0, a boutique HR advisory firm. Mark has been honored by SHRM nationally as their Human Capital Leader of the Year in 2007, and by HR Executive Magazine as an Honor Roll recipient in 2010 and “Best HR Ideas” in 2012. His HR teams have garnished numerous national and local awards for HR innovation, wellness, and employee engagement. Mark speaks regularly at national conferences. He is also an Adjunct Professor at Adelphi’s Graduate School of Business.

Comments 5

  1. After years of promoting and advocating every “leftist” cause, members are upset that a perceived more conservative approach is taking place seems rather misguided. SHRM’s only mission should be to support and provide tools of the trade for HR Professionals, not to impact some nebulous “society change”. The purported anxiety of Taylor’s “photo ops” with POTUS only reinforces how far off course SHRM has gone. SHRM lost its way.

  2. I have belonged to SHRM for many decades, mainly for the information resources and education opps. No idea why suddenly we have such chatter about SHRM in the public square when it seems to me the organization is supporting some changes on vital issues we should be addressing as a field and a nation. Sure, I get that some/many may not like the political aspects but you might remember successful political change requires compromise and collaboration with people on the other side. True at the national level and your own company. “Know the rules of engagement” – smart for all of us. Thanks, good article. So sayeth the feminist, veteran, old broad.

  3. The aim of #fixitSHRM is twofold:

    1. To get SHRM national leadership–from the CEO to its Board of Directors–to listen to the legitimate concerns of its membership, and of HR practitioners broadly. I find it troubling that members, some of whom have been involved with the organization for decades, are being stonewalled when they question said organization’s actions. That’s not what we expect of practitioners in the field. Why should SHRM be allowed to do this to its own?

    2. To get SHRM to disassociate itself from an administration that is unethical at its core. It’s one thing to disagree with SHRM’s support of a government sponsored initiative, based on one’s political opinions. It’s another to see SHRM support an administration that has promoted and condoned bigoted behavior, as well as actively attempting to restrict people’s civil rights. That’s unacceptable, in my opinion. It’s about ethical leadership.

    Who and what we choose to align ourselves with–from workforce policies and initiatives, to other leaders–speaks to what we value, and whom. SHRM’s lack of communication with rank-and-file membership, and its embrace of unethical figures, says (to me) that it doesn’t care about doing the right thing.

  4. Victorio,
    I welcome your position and feedback. As I stated in my post, there are a wide range of views amongst HR practitioners. And some feel SHRM and it’s CEO have crossed some lines. With that said, it is a non-profit membership organization and it’s close to 300,000 members are the “customer” and in a sense owners and stakeholders too. I do believe the organization does many important and valuable things for it’s members. But once it becomes political it is open to a variety of concerns and dissatisfaction amongst some faction no matter what the issue.
    I too would like to see SHRM listen more and hopefully make some adjustments to it’s go forward approach. However, being on the outside of the organization diminishes your voice and opportunity to get some of the changes many are looking for. Real change needs to happen on the inside. Constructive conversations can lead to this. Most HR folks don’t know or don’t care as they are busy and don’t want to get involved.
    The organization is active on the hill and many state legislatures. They have done some very important work for the HR community, most of it done behind the curtain. And again with a large membership no matter what the issue or legislation some will not be happy. That will not change, but there are many in the HR community that can have an impact, your voice and the voice of others should be heard and respond to. Many of my friends are fed up and walking away, others have gone negative over the situation and a few of us are staying the course from the inside.
    I will continue to support OUR Organization, because it belongs to every single member. My couple of hundred dollars in dues each year is worth as much as everyone else who belongs. My opinion is just as important as other members too. I will continue to voice my concerns to leadership and the board, which I have several times in person over the years going back to the time Sue and China were at the helm. In each and every case my call outs we’re responded to. Not always with the response or action hoped for, but with professionalism and respect.
    I am fortunate to have a voice in the HR community, on-line and in person. Change is hard, it takes time, energy and commitment. More folks need to speak up or seek out those who can be their voice. As a community we need to communicate our concerns. We can do it constructively. I do believe our voices are being heard.

    I appluad your commitment to making changes even if I don’t agree completely with everything you said. That’s the beauty of divirsity of beliefs and free speech.
    Change can happen.
    Thank you for weighing in.

  5. Great commentary and post Mar- as usual.
    I began my volunteer leadership role with SHRM in 1982 and have been active since- now on expertise panel and of course on a local chapter board.

    I disagree with the notion that there is a SHRM problem to be fixed. SHRM is such a large organization that to expect agreement with every orgazational decision is unrealistic and the scrutiny of the CEO on a personal level I assert is not appropriate.
    I am confident that SHRM members overall are quite enthusiastic at the direction and visibility that the CEO has brought our professional organization. I have seen the CEO present at about 6 different chapters in the last year. He brings an important message many in HR don’t want to hear though he has been wildly received at each event I have seen him. We have a rock star CEO who has actually worked in our function.
    I really enjoy working as a volunteer with those who seek to assist SHRM even better every day through their volunteerism and active involvement.
    I am not seeking a debate as I have an HR job which is my focus and is supported by SHRM. So you can count me as a supporter of our SHRM which seeks to advance our profession and our employer organizations.
    Thanks again for the post Mark

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